In a matter of a few short weeks apologist Steve Hays has been able to post multiple blogs critiquing some cessationist arguments against continuationism. Hays has described himself as a semi-cessationist in the past. At the time of this blog posting Hays does not consider himself a continuationist. Neverthless, his insight, honesty and clear thinking on the subject is useful to cessationists and continuationists alike. In these following blogs Hays manages to point out many of the serious problems with the arguments cessationists often use. He does a masterful job at uncovering and critiquing the terrible arguments that some cessationists employ. To be fair, he also gives critiques of some continuationists and continuationist arguments. I've listed the blogs from the oldest to the newest so that one can get a sense of the flow of the argument between Steve and his interlocutors. Being a continuationist myself, I've contributed comments to many of these blogs. I'll be adding to the list whenever appropriate.
Note: I usually didn't include Steve's blogs where he only posted an external link to someone else's webpage article. If I did, it was because there were immediate comments in that blog and Steve aggressively interacted with the comments. That means it's possible that such blogs (which were merely links) may eventually (down the line) have comments in them which Steve interacts with. Those blogs will not have been included in the list below because they remained comment free early on. Sometimes I've also included blogs posted by other Triabloggers because Steve decided to make insightful comments or respond to other comments at the bottom.
Was Kathryn Kuhlman a charlatan?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/07/was-kathryn-kuhlman-charlatan.html
Christian debunkers
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/07/christian-debunkers.html
Skeptical cessationism
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/07/skeptical-cessationism.html
Healing a few
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/healing-few.html
Debunking continuationism
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/debunking-continuationism.html
Is continuationism false by definition?
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/is-continuationism-false-by-definition.html
Mediate and immediate miracles
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/mediate-and-immediate-miracles.html
In these last days he has spoken to us by his Son
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/in-these-last-days-he-has-spoken-to-us.html
The Church of Hume
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-church-of-hume.html
Strange Fire conference
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/strange-fire-conference.html
Can God be chained?
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/can-god-be-chained.html
What is prophecy?
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/what-is-prophecy.html
Hypocrites chiding hypocrites
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/hypocrites-chiding-hypocrites.html
"Extrabiblical revelation"
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/extrabiblical-revelation.html
Primary and secondary sources
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/primary-and-secondary-sources.html
"Sign-gifts"
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/sign-gifts.html
Apostolic signs
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/apostolic-signs.html
Butler for the prosecution
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/butler-for-prosecution.html
Speaking in tongues
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/speaking-in-tongues.html
Ghost Hunters
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/ghost-hunters.html
Cessationism, testimonial evidence, and historical knowledge
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/cessationism-testimonial-evidence-and.html
Feminist cessationists
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/feminist-cessationists.html
Don't bother me with the facts!
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/dont-bother-me-with-facts.html
Clueless in MacArthurville
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/clueless-in-macarthurville.html
Reporting miracles
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/reporting-miracles.html
Will the real Dan Phillips please stand up?
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/will-real-dan-phillips-please-stand-up.html
Laying the foundation
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/laying-foundation.html
"Acts 4:16-level miracles"
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/acts-416-level-miracles.html
Cessationism and selective standards
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/cessationism-and-selective-standards.html
MacArthurite preterists
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/macarthurite-preterists.html
Who's redefining what?
triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/08/whos-redefining-what.html
"Woefully naive and theologically Pollyannish"
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/09/woefully-naive-and-theologically.html
Preaching to the bathroom mirror
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/09/preaching-to-bathroom-mirror.html
900 foot Jesus
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/900-foot-jesus.html
In-house narratives
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/in-house-narratives.html
Is Wayne Grudem a heretical cult-member?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/is-wayne-grudem-heretical-cult-member.html
Cessationism and the argument from miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/cessationism-and-argument-from-miracles.html
Hume in sheep's clothing
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/hume-in-sheeps-clothing.html
Purveyors of a false gospel
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/purveyors-of-false-gospel.html
Brown v. MacArthur
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/brown-v-macarthur.html
Fissures in dispensationalism
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/fissures-in-dispensationalism.html
Bob Larson
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/bob-larson.html
Deflecting miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/deflecting-miracles.html
"Gutless enablers"
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/gutless-enablers.html
Divine freedom
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/divine-freedom.html
Brown v. Turk
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/brown-v-turk.html
Judging by appearances
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/judging-by-appearances.html
Zero tolerance cessationism
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/zero-tolerance-cessationism.html
Bridge burning
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/bridge-burning.html
Seeing in a mirror
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/seeing-in-mirror.html
When the perfect comes
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/when-perfect-comes.html
Pauline prophecy
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/pauline-prophecy.html
Catholic miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/catholic-miracles.html
Revive Us Again
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/revive-us-again.html
Disambiguating the charismatic debate
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/disambiguating-charismatic-debate.html
Rearguard cessationism
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/rear-guard-cessationism.html
Strange bedfellows
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/strange-bedfellows.html
Short-sighted objections
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/short-sighted-objections.html
Soul brothers
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/soul-brothers.html
Perspectives on Africa
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/perspectives-on-africa.html
Strike three and counting
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/strike-three-and-counting.html
Are Biblical miracles "undeniable"?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/are-biblical-miracles-undeniable.html
George Müller: charismatic Calvinist
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/george-muller-charismatic-calvinist.html
Is this charismatic?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/is-this-charismatic.html
Denying the undeniable
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/denying-undeniable.html
Charismatic miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/charismatic-miracles.html
Healers and healing
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/healers-and-healing.html
Demarcating miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/demarcating-miracles.html
Wedge tactics
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/wedge-tactics.html
Some charismatic demographics
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/some-charismatic-demographics.html
Clarifying charismata
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/clarifying-charismata.html
James Randi in sheep's clothing
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/james-randi-in-sheeps-clothing.html
Strange fire or misfire?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/strange-fire-or-misfire.html
Shooting themselves in the foot
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/shooting-themselves-in-foot.html
Prophecies will pass away
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/prophecies-will-pass-away.html
The two witnesses
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-two-witnesses.html
Comical Ali
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/comical-ali.html
Critical thinking on modern miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/critical-thinking-on-modern-miracles.html
The latter day drought
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-latter-day-drought.html
Testing the spirits
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/testing-spirits.html
Putting God in a box
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/putting-god-in-box.html
The prayer of faith will save the sick
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-prayer-of-faith-will-save-sick.html
What cessationism is not...or is it?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/what-cessationism-is-notor-is-it.html
The charismatic covenanters
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-charismatic-covenanters.html
Throwing the baby out with the paintbrush
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/throwing-baby-out-with-paintbrush.html
Hiding behind a girl
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/hiding-behind-girl.html
Charismatic Christianity in Africa
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/charismatic-christianity-in-africa.html
Hodge on prophecy
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/hodge-on-prophecy.html
Same product, different label
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/same-product-different-label.html
Have the charismata ceased?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/have-charismata-ceased.html
Brown v. Waldron
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/brown-v-waldron.html
Postmortem on the Waldron/Brown debate
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/postmortem-on-waldronbrown-debate.html
Dreaming of Jesus
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/dreaming-of-jesus.html
Bring my cloak
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/bring-my-cloak.html
Fire and smoke
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/fire-and-smoke.html
The prayer of faith
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-prayer-of-faith.html
Tongues of fire
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/tongues-of-fire.html
Redshirt recruits
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/redshirt-recruits.html
The Protestant Polemic on Post-Biblical Miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-protestant-polemic-on-post-biblical.html
Hacking nature
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/hacking-nature.html
"Modern apostles"
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/modern-apostles.html
On prophecy and prayer
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/on-prophecy-and-prayer.html
Keener reviews Strange Fire
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/keener-reviews-strange-fire.html
Piper on the Strange Fire conference
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/piper-on-strange-fire-conference.html
How cessationism denies the self-attesting authority of Scripture
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/how-cessationism-denies-self-attesting.html
Cessationism and continuationism, never mind the Torah, what do we think happened in the golden age when the canon was forming?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/cessationism-and-continuationism-never.html
Charismatic glossary
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/charismatic-glossary.html
My rodeo clown beats your rodeo clown!
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/my-rodeo-clown-beats-your-rodeo-clown.html
MacArthurite mythmakers
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/macarthurite-mythmakers.html
Was Spurgeon clairvoyant?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/was-spurgeon-clairvoyant.html
Was Martyn Lloyd-Jones a cessationist?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/was-martyn-lloyd-jones-cessationist.html
Lloyd-Jones on cessationism
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/lloyd-jones-on-cessationism.html
All or nothing
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/all-or-nothing.html
Do you believe in miracles?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/do-you-believe-in-miracles.html
Fathoms of doubt
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/fathoms-of-doubt.html
Token faith in miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/token-faith-in-miracles.html
Swinging at the piñata
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/swinging-at-pinata.html
Naturalizing miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/naturalizing-miracles.html
Visions of Jesus
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/11/visions-of-jesus.html
Ufology and miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/12/ufology-and-miracles.html
The truth is out there
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-truth-is-out-there.html
What makes a miracle miraculous?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/12/what-makes-miracle-miraculous.html
Sancho, saddle up Rocinante
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/12/sancho-saddle-up-rocinante.html
Sacerdotal cessationism
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/12/sacerdotal-cessationism.html
Brush fire
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/brush-fire.html
Praying for amputees
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/praying-for-amputees.html
NT quality miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/nt-quality-miracles.html
Can the leopard change its spots?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/can-leopard-change-its-spots.html
Undeniable exorcisms
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/undeniable-exorcisms.html
Fred's decoy
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/freds-decoy.html
Instant healing
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/instant-healing.html
To whom are miracles undeniable?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/to-whom-are-miracles-undeniable.html
Playing with atheist matches
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/playing-with-atheist-matches.html
Founding the church
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/founding-church.html
The healing debate
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-healing-debate.html
Primer on Eph 2:20
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/primer-on-eph-220.html
Modern xenoglossy
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/modern-xenoglossy.html
Parsing theological metaphors
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/parsing-theological-metaphors.html
Matches in the dark
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/matches-in-dark.html
Complete healing
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/complete-healing.html
Weeding out charlatans
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/weeding-out-charlatans.html
Proximal prayer
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/proximal-prayer.html
Science & Healing
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/science-healing.html
Spotting charlatans
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/01/spotting-charlatans.html
Compartmentalized Christians
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/02/compartmentalized-christians.html
John 14:12
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/02/john-1412.html
Miracles and medicine
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/02/miracles-and-medicine.html
A simple method for weeding out charlatan faith-healers
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/02/a-simple-method-for-weeding-out.html
Snake-handlers
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/02/snake-handlers.html
They shall take up serpents
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/02/they-shall-take-up-serpents.html
The golden calf
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-golden-calf.html
Massive elephants
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/03/massive-elephants.html
Pastor, Inc.
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/03/pastor-inc.html
Old gossipy wags
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/03/old-gossipy-wags.html
"Subjective dreams and visions"
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/subjective-dreams-and-visions.html
"Woefully out of touch"
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/woefully-out-of-touch.html
Raising the dead
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/raising-dead.html
"How to recognize a false prophet"
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/how-to-recognize-false-prophet.html
Blown about by every wind of doctrine
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/blown-about-by-every-wind-of-doctrine.html
Fragging Craig Keener
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/fragging-craig-keener.html
Life in the compound
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/life-in-compound.html
Shilling for radical feminism
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/shilling-for-radical-feminism.html
Taking shortcuts on miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/taking-shortcuts-on-miracles.html
The Monsters On Maple Street
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-monsters-on-maple-street.html
Apostolic miracles
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/04/apostolic-miracles.html
Does Cessationism Still Stand?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/05/does-cessationism-still-stand.html
The Spirit of prophecy
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-spirit-of-prophecy.html
Huguenot miracles
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/07/huguenot-miracles.html
Correcting Fred's falsehoods
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/07/correcting-freds-falsehoods.html
Let God Arise
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/07/let-god-arise.html
Guiding light
http://www.triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/07/guiding-light.html
God is my co-pilot
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/07/god-is-my-co-pilot.html
An audible voice
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/07/an-audible-voice.html
Jezebel
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/08/jezebel.html
Cases of xenoglossy
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/08/cases-of-xenoglossy.html
Charismata in church history
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/09/charismata-in-church-history.html
Gifts of healing
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/12/gifts-of-healing.html
Heaven Tourism
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2015/01/heaven-tourism.html
Dousing strange fires
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2015/02/dousing-strange-fires.html
Exorcism and healing
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2015/02/exorcism-and-healing.html
Availing prayer
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2015/03/availing-prayer.html
How prevalent were the charismata?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2015/09/how-prevalent-were-charismata.html
Does God heal?
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2015/09/does-god-heal.html
Bubbleboy cessationism
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2016/10/bubbleboy-cessationism.html
Quasi-charismatics
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2016/11/quasi-charismatics.html
Recommended Link:
Links on the Subject of Miracles in the Context of Craig Keener's Recent Book
http://www.gospelcrumbs.blogspot.com/2012/11/links-on-subject-of-miracles-in-context.html
Annoyed - thanks for collecting these. I haven't read them all, but I'm certain that Steve's perspective is clear, Biblical, and level-headed
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely! You Triabloggers have a lot of great material posted. They just aren't as organized as they could be and so slow down or prevent new visitors (or posterity) from accessing the wealth of information and clear thinking arguments available (which is the one weakness of the blog format). During the early years Triabloggers weren't consistent in using blog labels (if at all). I'm glad you folks are are now. I like how you and Jason occasionally collect related blogs and post them in an organized fashion on a single blog.
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DeleteThank you A.P., this is excellent. Although I had already cut and pasted some of the material into a personal file of mine for additional study later it's good to have all these links here on one page. However, in looking it over I don't see a link to the post back in July that started this entire conversation which was the blog entry "Was Kathryn Kuhlman a charlatan?
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I mention it both because of Steve's initial overview about the topic and my extended conversation with him in the comments section, particularly with regard to the verification of at least one person miraculously cured of cancer in her healing service, along with further biblical exegesis of 1 Cor. 12: v. 9, 28 and 30 concerning "gifts of healings".
Michael
I don't see a link to the post back in July that started this entire conversation which was the blog entry "Was Kathryn Kuhlman a charlatan?
DeleteHmm...I thought I had included it. I guess because I thought it was posted by Steve after his blog titled, "Christian debunkers."
Anyway, I've just added that link, and you're right. Steve posted that blog about Kuhlman prior to "Christian debunkers." Thank you very much for bringing that to my attention. :-))))
On another blog Truth Unites... and Divides asked whether Steve Hays is a semicessationist. I responded to him there on THAT BLOG.
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ReplyDeleteSure, no problem :-))
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